What is happening with F4-All Countries?
To understand what is happening today with F4-All Countries, we need to take a step back and look at the last ~40 months.
Back in October 2018, the U.S. State Department realized that the ‘response rate’ to the ‘Welcome Letters’ of the National Visa Center (NVC) to Worldwide F4 applicants was very low. In other words, the NVC was sending documents to F4 applicants to get them to assemble and submit documentation to the NVC so that they could be come ‘case complete’ (or ‘documentarily qualified’) and be scheduled for an interview at a U.S. Consulate or Embassy outside the United States.
The problem was that few applicants were acting on these Welcome Letters, and the ‘Visa Office’ which is in charge of the Visa Bulletin became worried about ‘unused’ visa numbers at the end of the year (essentially not fully using the 65,000 visa numbers available under the F4 classification).
That is why they advanced the Final Action Date so much during FY2019, that it became the strongest advancement seen by F4 in the last 20 years.
But of course things eventually change: the Visa Office advanced the date too much, the response rate started picking up and suddenly the situation was no longer tenable. If all the Worldwide F4 documentarily qualified candidates were allowed to schedule Interviews, suddenly the number of F4 Green Cards issued would far exceed the 65,000 annual numerical limit.
That is why we had this massive retrogression in February 2020. It was totally self-inflicted by the Visa Office, which created this situation by not advancing the dates enough in prior years and then overcompensating. But it also set F4-All Countries (and F4-India) on a different trajectory than most other preference categories (such as F1, F2B, and F3): because it was dealing with a backlog of ‘interview-ready’ applicants, the Visa Office did not advance the Visa Bulletin Dates at a rapid pace during the Covid-19 pandemic, and F4 Final Action Dates might be more in line with the reality of the situation than other categories.
The following graph is a good summary of our anlysis. We compared the advancement of the last 3 years (in blue) with what the average advancement of the last 3 years would have been (in green). You can see of fast it started, the retrogression, and how F4 is slowly making its way back to its 20-year average:
How did the Final Action Date move in the past few months?
F4 | Latest |
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Visa Bulletin Date: | Oct 2022 |
Chargeability: | allCountries |
Final Action Date: | Mar 22, 2007 |
Movement: | None |
No nice surprise in October 2022. In February 2020, the Final Action Date of F4-All Countries retrogressed considerably. This was due to a massive miscalculation from the Visa Office of the State Department: they were worried about unused F4 visas (because of a low response rate to the NVC's Welcome Letters), but advanced the VB dates too much, creating a significant backlog of interview-ready applications and forcing them to limit the number of interviews that could take place by retrogressing the F.A.D. This was terrible, but at least it set wordwide F4 dates on a different trajectory as a lot of other preferences. When the Visa Office kept advancing dates for other preferences (such as F1, F2B, or F3) even when almost no Consular Interviews were taking place, they did not do that for F4 because they knew they already had a backlog of interviews to schedule. In other words, F4- All Countries VB dates better reflect the reality of the current situation than other preferences and, as a result, we are expecting to see these dates move sooner and with more momentum than others. This hope is strengthened by the fact that F4-Interviews are, according to Immigration Planner's detailed analysis of State Department data, getting to 80%+ pre-pandemic levels. There will however be a price to pay for recent and future applicants in terms of 'time-to-current' because the lost Green Cards of the last 2 years are gone for good and are not coming back. |
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Predictions for F4 India, Mexico and the Philippines.
F4 | Last Six | |
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Visa Bulletin | Final Action | Movement |
Oct 2022 | Mar 22, 2007 | None |
Sep 2022 | Mar 22, 2007 | None |
Aug 2022 | Mar 22, 2007 | None |
Jul 2022 | Mar 22, 2007 | None |
Jun 2022 | Mar 22, 2007 | None |
May 2022 | Mar 22, 2007 | None |
What does Immigration Planner predict?
The key of our short-term prediction is that there will be no ‘forward movement’ for F4-All Countries until at least the summer of 2022, and most likely no movement until the end of fiscal year 2022 in September 2022. Beyond the detailed analysis that we shared, this has been stated numerous times by Charlie Oppenheim, who is the head of the ‘Visa Office’ that makes the decision about the Visa Bulletin (you can listen to him talking about the family preferences in November 2021 at on this Youtube video).
F4, All Countries – Final Action Dates Predictions for the next two years:
You are going to have to use our web app to get longer terms predictions (which is free, and it takes only a few minutes to get results), but this will give you a sense of where we see things going in the short term –>
Our latest predictions for the Final Action Dates of F4 for 🌐All Countries.
Brothers and sisters (siblings) of U.S. Citizens.
Visa Bulletin | Final Action |
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Oct 2022 | Mar 22, 2007 |
Nov 2022 | Apr 1, 2007 |
Dec 2022 | Apr 1, 2007 |
Jan 2023 | Apr 8, 2007 |
Feb 2023 | Apr 15, 2007 |
Mar 2023 | Apr 22, 2007 |
Apr 2023 | May 1, 2007 |
May 2023 | May 8, 2007 |
Jun 2023 | May 15, 2007 |
Jul 2023 | May 22, 2007 |
Aug 2023 | Jun 1, 2007 |
Sep 2023 | Jun 1, 2007 |
Oct 2023 | Jun 15, 2007 |
Nov 2023 | Jul 1, 2007 |
Dec 2023 | Jul 8, 2007 |
Jan 2024 | Jul 15, 2007 |
Feb 2024 | Aug 1, 2007 |
Mar 2024 | Aug 8, 2007 |
Apr 2024 | Aug 22, 2007 |
May 2024 | Sep 1, 2007 |
Jun 2024 | Sep 8, 2007 |
Jul 2024 | Sep 22, 2007 |
Aug 2024 | Oct 1, 2007 |
Sep 2024 | Oct 15, 2007 |
Oct 2024 | Nov 1, 2007 |
Nov 2024 | Nov 8, 2007 |
Dec 2024 | Nov 15, 2007 |
Jan 2025 | Dec 1, 2007 |
Feb 2025 | Dec 8, 2007 |
Mar 2025 | Dec 22, 2007 |
Apr 2025 | Jan 1, 2008 |
May 2025 | Jan 8, 2008 |
Jun 2025 | Jan 22, 2008 |
Jul 2025 | Feb 1, 2008 |
Aug 2025 | Feb 15, 2008 |
Sep 2025 | Feb 22, 2008 |
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What can we say about ‘time to current’?
Time to current measures the time it takes an applicant to have their ‘priority date’ current when compared to the ‘final action date’ of the Visa Bulletin. Although not factually correct, time to current is often used by applicants as an estimation of how long it is going to take them to get their Green Card. We also make predictions about time to current for our Green Card dynamic timeline predictions: the process of scheduling a Green Card interview cannot be initiated before the applicant’s date is ‘current’, so it is one of the key ‘anchor’ of the process.
Let’s note that before the pandemic, ‘time to current’ was not heading in the right direction:
The incredibly sad news here is that family Green Cards that were not issued over the last two years are gone forever. They are not coming back for family (they were transferred to ’employment’ based Green Cards). As a result, time to current will go up:
I am going through adjustment of status, what else applies to me?
Applicants going through Adjustment of Status are often allowed to use the ‘Filing Date’ of the Visa Bulletin to determine when they are allowed to file Form I-485. Here is the latest:
Filing Date | Movement | Status |
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Dec 15, 2007 | None | ✔︎ Yes, the Filing Date can be used |
When will the Interview be scheduled?
Most F4 applicants are going through Consular Processing, so we are going to focus on F4 issuances at U.S. Consulates and Embassies abroad.
The first important news is that the number of U.S. Consulates issuing F4 Green Cards has increased significantly. But we are still below pre-pandemic levels, which means that F4 interviews are not prioritized.
Immigration Planner analyzed U.S. Department of State data (available here), and we can see that we are well below pre-pandemic levels:
The following table compares the number of U.S. Green Cards issued under the 4th preference (F4, siblings of U.S. Citizens) through consular processing in Fiscal Year 2022 with Fiscal Year 2019 (Fiscal Year 2019, from October 2018 to September 2019 was the last year not impacted by the Covid-19 pandemic) for each of the U.S. Consulate and Embassy abroad.
When talking to other applicants, also make sure that you are not comparing yourself with 'immediate relatives' of U.S. Citizens. Clear priority was given by the State Department to immediate relatives, so their situation is generally much better and their wait much shorter. If you want to assess the wait at your U.S. Embassy or Consulate, see what is happening with applicants in the F4 category there. If you do not know F4 applicants, join the Immigration Planner Facebook group where updates about consulates are shared on a regular basis.
When will Immigration Planner update its predictions?
We expect to update our predictions the day after the next Visa Bulletin is released. Our best guess as to when we will update these predictions is as follows:
Oct 15, 2022 |
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